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  JWs - Liberals or Conservatives?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where they stand is a strange mixture.

  yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .

  but in many ways they're liberal.

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  neat blue dog

  OK so JWs aren't Orthodox Liberals (didn't know there was such a thing 😅), but they're like the majority who've hijacked the liberals. 🤔 Close enough, I'll agree.
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  JWs - Liberals or Conservatives?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where they stand is a strange mixture.

  yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .

  but in many ways they're liberal.

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  neat blue dog

  If they're fully conservative, where's all the talk about Jesus, God's Holy Spirit, etc.?

  Also like I said many JW converts seem to be artist hippie type that would normally be Liberals if it weren't for the fact they were JWs. They're more attracted by the whole world peace all nationalities thing than the religious element. On the other hand most conservatives are viewed as white bread eating anti-imigration, etc.
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  JWs - Liberals or Conservatives?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where they stand is a strange mixture.

  yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .

  but in many ways they're liberal.

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  neat blue dog

  No, I know every strata of society has drinkers. I'm talking about the advertising of it, boasting about it, joking about it. Many conservatives wouldn't do that.

  homosexuality, no abortion, highly restricted divorce, traditional gender roles

  Like I said, an unusual mixture of the two.
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  JWs - Liberals or Conservatives?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where they stand is a strange mixture.

  yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .

  but in many ways they're liberal.

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  neat blue dog

  I say neither. Where they stand is a strange mixture. Yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the Bible and wear skirts and ties to church . . . But in many ways they're liberal. I mean, they subconsciously know they're not normal so they're always obsessed with proving they're normal. Take drinking. So many JWs are I've known are always excessively gushing about alcohol and basically acting like middle schoolers about it. Besides the novelty aspect many others need it to medicate so they don't have to think. I guess alcohol's been part of JW culture since Rutherford onward, from the R&F publishers to the Bethelites. Then when it comes to politics although technically they're neutral most JWs I know often side with Democrats and mock Republicans. JWs are known as being religious, but unlike most other Christians. Their religion is more businesslike and matter of fact. Most are embarrassed to say anything too religious sounding or to mention Jesus. Many many converts came from hippie backgrounds and were attracted by the new world teaching and the return to an earthly paradise. These are usually the same types that are into natural foods and cures, pseudoscience and government conspiracy theories.

  Any thoughts?
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  My friend the 'Super-Dub.'

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i speak semi-regularly to an old friend of mine who i would describe as a super-dub.. he knows i am inactive but over the years i have peppered him with a lot of questions about the org.

  that i hoped would make him at least pause and think somewhat rationally about the reality of being a jw in this brave new- post gb 2.0 world.. we have discussed everything from the generation changes, to the u.n. , failed prophecy, flip flops, the reduction in size of the wt magazine, the closing/ consolidation of bethels including lay-offs, jw broadcasting, cart witnessing- etc, etc.. what do i mean by super-dub?

  he is a born-in, has missionary parents, he reg.

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  neat blue dog

  Now that I think about it that might be a good sitcom idea, "My Friend the Super-Dub", kind of like The Odd Couple.
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  My friend the 'Super-Dub.'

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i speak semi-regularly to an old friend of mine who i would describe as a super-dub.. he knows i am inactive but over the years i have peppered him with a lot of questions about the org.

  that i hoped would make him at least pause and think somewhat rationally about the reality of being a jw in this brave new- post gb 2.0 world.. we have discussed everything from the generation changes, to the u.n. , failed prophecy, flip flops, the reduction in size of the wt magazine, the closing/ consolidation of bethels including lay-offs, jw broadcasting, cart witnessing- etc, etc.. what do i mean by super-dub?

  he is a born-in, has missionary parents, he reg.

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  neat blue dog

  Sad but true.
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  Tell me what you think

  by Ft2188 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i left 5 years ago and even though i've had therapy and have been medicated somehow, something from the last creeps up on me.

  i started writing a book, mostly for my own healing.

  i wrote a letter to my parents of everything i had wanted to say but knew i wouldn't get a chance to.

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  neat blue dog

  Hi Ft2188:

  Just to let you know, I sent you my letter as a PM, not to the email address. You are a new member with one post after all and I can't reveal my identity, so sending you an email from my email address could risk that. No offense, and thank you for this effort.
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  Tell me what you think

  by Ft2188 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i left 5 years ago and even though i've had therapy and have been medicated somehow, something from the last creeps up on me.

  i started writing a book, mostly for my own healing.

  i wrote a letter to my parents of everything i had wanted to say but knew i wouldn't get a chance to.

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  neat blue dog

  OK I'm on it.
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  Tell me what you think

  by Ft2188 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i left 5 years ago and even though i've had therapy and have been medicated somehow, something from the last creeps up on me.

  i started writing a book, mostly for my own healing.

  i wrote a letter to my parents of everything i had wanted to say but knew i wouldn't get a chance to.

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  neat blue dog

  Sure, what kind of content are you looking for? Am I right in understanding you want hypothetical letters that haven't really been sent to relatives, but express our true feelings?
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  Things I Cant Stand Since Leaving Watchtower

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.

  now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.

  little kids in suits.

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  neat blue dog

  AverageJoe

  
  

  Those are my sentiments exactly. Such a relief, especially to be able to put anything on your report form as it doesn't mean anything at the end of the day!

  
  

  Yes, I just started falsifying my monthly report several months ago! Even after I was mentally out, I still continued to be fairly honest on my report out of not thinking about it, or maybe a little guilt. But now I always put average but decent figures, always above what ministerial servants are required to have. If they're gonna judge me, it's not gonna be based on that paper!